First fret on this setar or the second video; we would not call it Segah for Turkish music. It woud be perde Uşşak. Like the second degree of hicaz on Hüzzam or Karcığar in practice, not Arel Nazariyat.In these videos Hicaz can be heard by scale or melodic movement Seyir. When it comes to sound it is Hicaz. You may show us how it is used in Segah in Iranian music so that your point would be clear. I see your point, that what they use is clearly sharper but in result not sounding completey or even quite distinct for Hicaz. That is what we do for some pieces as well. I put a pic below showing the moment he uses same perde on this Hicaz hümayun saz semai. Ironically its called Hicaz Hümayun Also setar players might use the back (flatter sounding) side of the fret itself, which we do all the time. [ATTACH=full]78183[/ATTACH]
First fret on this setar or the second video; we would not call it Segah for Turkish music. It woud be perde Uşşak. Like the second degree of hicaz on Hüzzam or Karcığar in practice, not Arel Nazariyat.
In these videos Hicaz can be heard by scale or melodic movement Seyir. When it comes to sound it is Hicaz. You may show us how it is used in Segah in Iranian music so that your point would be clear. I see your point, that what they use is clearly sharper but in result not sounding completey or even quite distinct for Hicaz. That is what we do for some pieces as well. I put a pic below showing the moment he uses same perde on this Hicaz hümayun saz semai. Ironically its called Hicaz Hümayun
Also setar players might use the back (flatter sounding) side of the fret itself, which we do all the time. [ATTACH=full]78183[/ATTACH]
