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<blockquote data-quote="woaigongzuo400" data-source="post: 91496" data-attributes="member: 14139">Start from listening, not from a Western transcription. For the first month I would pick one short süzidil or hüzzam phrase, loop the same recording, and only then look at the nota. The comma-level accidentals will keep disappearing if you try to map them onto a three-year violin fingering chart first.On the violin, treat the first-finger whole-tone as movable. Play the same tetrachord against a drone (tanbur or a cheap keyboard hold) until the hanging note feels like home. That is usually faster than hunting for a teacher who can already switch between Hindustani and Ottoman intonation.When the only score you have is a dim phone photo of a printed page, I flatten the lighting on that still frame with <a href="https://imgtoimg-ai.com/" target="_blank">image to image ai</a> so the koma marks stay readable next to the recording. It does not teach the makam; it just keeps the paper from lying to you while you listen.If you post which recording you are looping, people here can tell you whether that particular seyir is even friendly for a Western-trained left hand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="woaigongzuo400, post: 91496, member: 14139"] Start from listening, not from a Western transcription. For the first month I would pick one short süzidil or hüzzam phrase, loop the same recording, and only then look at the nota. The comma-level accidentals will keep disappearing if you try to map them onto a three-year violin fingering chart first. On the violin, treat the first-finger whole-tone as movable. Play the same tetrachord against a drone (tanbur or a cheap keyboard hold) until the hanging note feels like home. That is usually faster than hunting for a teacher who can already switch between Hindustani and Ottoman intonation. When the only score you have is a dim phone photo of a printed page, I flatten the lighting on that still frame with [URL='https://imgtoimg-ai.com/']image to image ai[/URL] so the koma marks stay readable next to the recording. It does not teach the makam; it just keeps the paper from lying to you while you listen. If you post which recording you are looping, people here can tell you whether that particular seyir is even friendly for a Western-trained left hand. [/QUOTE]

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